Pikabu Syria fresh. How the press service of the Ministry of Defense lost the information war in Syria to three barmaley with a mortar

1) Well, if in Russia the people by 86% will support almost any aggressive actions against sovereign democratic Ukraine.
Or if it will be 60% for actions only against "evil benders who feed on Russian blood" (moreover, for smart and adequate ones, there will be more weight data that is not 100% fictional, but at least with a connection in reality, so that they themselves need extra aggression and mistakes remove) and of them only 20% for any aggression.
Those are 2 big differences.
And from the entire Internet, it can spread a little to the masses

2) Donbass, and later Crimea. It is important not to forget that these are not only territories, but also people with their own opinions.

Disagree.
The last couple of years have shown that simple discussions are no longer enough. This applies to both Ukraine and Russia, and probably any other post-Soviet country (or just a poor one).

If people disagree with something, but do nothing, politicians will do what suits their personal interests. And unfortunately, 90% of our (TM) politicians are either greedy thieves or populists, whose greed is also overwhelming.

In Ukraine, Yanyk decided to turn away from the European path. Right or wrong, it doesn't matter. It is important that people said "No, we want to go to Europe". And they went out into the street. And they stood. These people forced Yanyk to flee. If people had not taken to the streets, we would have already been in the Customs Union (again, we do not discuss whether this is good or bad).
I must say, we are observing this even now - if the attention of the media / activists is not riveted to some process, then the judges / officials will stir up and decide "as it should". As soon as some process began to shine, everyone suddenly tries to work. They can say for Ukraine - crookedly and slowly, but this format is starting to work. Not always, but on important points - people got leverage.

In Russia, this is not yet visible. 86% either Crimea is Ours, or who_if_not_Putin, and the remaining 14% say they are not ready to fight these 86%. is this correct or not? Is it reasonable? I dont know. That's real - I don't know what I would do if I were a citizen of the Russian Federation. I would like to think that I would have found the strength to either organize some kind of movement or dump it to hell so that my taxes would not go to Novorossia, Syria and the Iskanders.

Without action - all garbage. If the people of Kiev (and other regions) were simply indignant that Yanyk-gad did not go to Europe, then he would be violet and he would do whatever he thought of. We are doomed for the next 50 years to have politicians who only think about their asses. The people must control them. No matter what anyone says, but Ukraine does it. It sucks and crooked, but the process has begun.

And the Russians-let them do what they think is right. To be honest - I would be deeply purple on them as North Korea, but their politics affect my life a bit - i.e. prices, the army and the service of acquaintances in the ATO.

1) In general, I do not argue, but beliefs do not cancel everything else. And in a crisis, people's eyes often open, but they can look in different directions. It is not just that the Kremlin controls all the federal media, pushes propagandists to the show and uses Kremlinbots on the net. That's who doesn't like what, but here the hop and everything falls on external enemies. Putin has all the power, and Obama has all the negative responsibility. And even if 5% open their eyes in the right direction, that's good.
Beliefs (both good and harmful propaganda) affect people, but they are effective only when they find a piece of reflection in people.

Even if they don't take action, it's better than nothing.
There is one propagandist who has been shouting for many years that the dollar will collapse soon, and some people seemed to believe him, but now they are sending nah (although faith in the unsustainable public debt of the United States has not gone away)

2) Problems within Ukraine need to be adequately, peacefully, but resolutely corrected, resolved and a system built without these shortcomings. Economy. The government should not allow the actions of thieves and corrupt officials. Show that Ukraine can really.
But there is another. And she splits.
It is not necessary that the Ukrainians and embroidered be the same as the extreme wool. Xs in what way it helps the side to fight cotton wool, but it definitely brings problems. (And there would be less extreme wool.) I remember when Poroshenko tweeted. A bunch of degenerates from Ukraine began to curse him. I understand that difficult circumstances are to blame for 10% and maybe they seemed abandoned and there are problems with the authorities, but 90% of the reason is that these clerks are scum (perhaps most are just sofas) And such people harm Ukraine and everyone else. They scare away many groups of people and discredit them before Europe. Such from the very beginning brought huge problems (there were just fewer of them). Do not be like extreme wadded zombie aggressors with their propaganda

https://twitter.com/poroshenko/status/660510310604894208

Assholes are heard better than adequate ones.

American special forces in Syria

Sometimes in the foreign media you can find interesting stories of foreigners who encountered Russians in certain conditions. I somehow came across the story of a US Army Special Forces soldier who had previously been on a business trip in Syria.

Let's call him conditionally "John" (for some reason, the real name was not remembered, some unusual for our ear). So John ended up in Syria even before the start of the Russian Aerospace Forces operation. He regularly advised "bearded commanders", as he called the Syrian militants fighting against Bashar al-Assad, and trained simple "bearded men".

But then the Russians came. Along with the Navy and Aerospace Forces, a large number of Russian military advisers appeared in Assad's ground forces. In addition, a direct competitor of John appeared in Syria - the Russian Special Operations Forces (SOF - Russian special forces for operations anywhere in the world, including in peacetime through covert operations).

Of course, the American was aware of these troops, just as he was aware of the character of the Russians. He worked under a contract, earned money and did not want to return to the US "a little lifeless." That is why he diligently avoided meeting with Russian special forces.


US Special Forces soldier in Syria

But fate decreed otherwise. The detachment in which John was located was located in close proximity to the line of demarcation between the formations of the Syrian army and opposition fighters. It was in this place that the Russian special forces began an operation to eliminate one of the terrorist field commanders, who was guarded by an American.

Immediately after the start of their operation, the Russians covered the defenders of the field commander with a volley from grenade launchers, after which their snipers immediately started working.

The American writes that he was saved from a volley by the fact that he quickly fell into a narrow passage between two boulders. After that, he carefully looked out and saw that his field commander had been eliminated. He began to retreat between the stones, but suddenly felt a sharp pain in the shoulder area, after which he lost consciousness.

Having completed the task, the Russian special forces went to their side (the fact that he was precisely Russian, the American determined by two or three commands that were given by the attackers in Russian - he did not know the language itself, but how could a professional separate it from Turkish or Arabic). John was taken out by helicopter and ended up in a hospital at one of the nearby US bases. In the hospital, the doctor, after examining his wound, told him the following:

You're in luck, soldier. It's good that the Russian special forces separated you from the local "bearded men" and realized that you are an American. This bullet in the shoulder is a farewell greeting from them.


Russian SOF sniper in Syria

John writes further that at that moment he remembered that Russian snipers always act professionally, and their bullets hit the heads of the "bearded" terrorists clearly. And the same thing could happen to him, if only the Russians wanted it.

Apparently, a clean-shaven face (unlike the local "bearded men"), specialized uniforms and his commands in Anglo-American slang allowed the Russian special forces to quickly determine during direct contact with the enemy that they were facing a US special forces fighter.

John says:

I am grateful to the Russian sniper for his “hello”, and I would even like to thank him personally, but this, given the specifics of our troops and our relations, is impossible. He left me alive, now I have received a large pension for the injury and live in the USA. Or it could be somewhere in the ground.

Thank you friend if you ever read this message of mine.
And I also realized that the Americans have nothing to do in Syria. There are Russians there, they will restore order, and we only interfere. But our government cannot prove this.

He literally replied as follows:

The story may be fake, but the fact that the Americans avoid clashes with our special forces is true. A familiar contractor on a business trip was in Syria. He did not participate in serious clashes, but there were skirmishes and the "amers" immediately retreated, and the "basmachi" followed after a couple of shellings. They only execute cool people on camera.

Although it should be remembered that the American special forces are also not boys, and most of them are members of Afghanistan, Iraq. I am Russian and I always believe in victory, but under no circumstances should you underestimate the enemy.

Good afternoon. I live in Syria. In connection with the hype in the world media about recent events, I really wanted to talk. I'm not going to talk about what they say in the news, you've heard enough of that already. I have no proof and evidence, but I have my own opinion and the words of an eyewitness. This is what I will share.

For those who read me for the first time - I have been living here for 9 years, I came here with my family before the war (and stayed after it began), because life here was easier, safer, cheaper and better than where I come from (Sevastopol). The friendship between the Russian Federation and Syria begins since the times of the USSR, a lot of Syrians once studied in the USSR, took girls there as wives. As a result, many of them speak Russian, they know a lot about Russia, and the majority speaks of it with warm words.

The most interesting thing started about a month ago, during a sandstorm. Remember that storm in the Middle East? Well, I wake up in the morning, and there is sandy fog outside. And the feeling is somehow strange, silence is everywhere, an ominous fog from the sand. Indeed, the militants captured a military airport in the province of Idlib, after which the province fell completely. Why was it captured? The storm helped. She served as their cover for several days and they took advantage of it. And here there were rumors that "the Russians are going to Syria." I would like to note that, like you, I learn half of the news, if not more, from the Internet and local media, after which I compare everything with what I see and what surrounds me, and draw conclusions from this. Let's get back to my story. A couple of weeks after the storm, all the news services are trumpeting that Russian ships and planes are heading to Syria. During the celebration of Eid al-Adha, the country rested for 4 days and no one worked. And then all these 4 days we did not turn off the electricity at all. To make it clearer, I'll try to explain - almost all summer we had electricity cut off for 4 hours and given for 2 hours. That is, 4 no, 2 yes, and so all 24 hours. And here there is electricity 24 hours a day, no one goes to work, it's a holiday, everyone is resting. I finally got enough sleep, slept every day for 11 hours, because all summer, when the lights are turned off almost all night, it’s even 30 in the street at night, and at 3 in the morning the generator in the bakery turns on - it’s impossible to sleep. And suddenly electricity 24 hours a day! Here is a holiday! People associated this with the fact that the Russians arrived "brought the light with them." Of course, after the holidays, the lights began to turn off again, but already 3/3 and at night they don’t turn off at all. Before the holiday, there were problems with the water supply, it happened that there was no water in the taps for 2-3 days or they were given only at night. Now the water flows steadily.

After satellite pictures of the airport near Latakia appeared on the Internet, I began to hear from acquaintances and friends that someone had seen Russians in the city. Usually these are young guys of my age (26 - a couple of years) with an Arabic translator. To be honest, I personally have not met them (I, like a "normal" person, have a regime - home - work - home), but there are already a lot of people who have seen them. How did my friends and people in general react? Calm down, happy. Everyone knows perfectly well that Russia did not come here to start a war, but rather to end it. Everyone understands this, especially ordinary people who are already really tired of this war. I want to clarify one thing - Russians have always been loved here, before the war too. Living here before the war, I can say with confidence that even then the Russians were treated like brothers. In the store, taxis could not take money, they tried to treat them almost everywhere, and sometimes there were such individuals who began to tell in pure Russian "how he made a snowman in 1985 in Odessa / Samara / Rostov and that his ears were frozen because that he didn't put on his hat with earflaps." Not exactly these words, but approximately such stories are in every Syrian who studied in the USSR.

I would like to add something about refugees. When the war in Iraq started in 2003, where did the locals run to? In Syria, more than 4 million, and Syria accepted them without question. When there was a war between Lebanon and Israel in 2006, where did the Lebanese run? To Syria, more than a million. Do you know how many Palestinian refugees there are? I won’t say a number, but there are a lot, entire areas, and they have been refugees for many decades. And now there was a war in Syria and people simply do not know where to go. I know a couple of families who fled to Yemen at the beginning of the war, and then the war broke out there. The Syrians know very well what "war" means.

I would like to take this opportunity to talk about what is sore. A little about myself - I'm 26 years old, I'm an IT specialist (system admin and everything attached to it), I have a job, I live here with my mother and grandmother, I haven't had time to learn yet, I studied 11 classes in Sevastopol, at the age of 19 I already worked in Syria. I speak fluent English, Arabic, Russian and Ukrainian (Arabic is already better than Ukrainian). Despite the improvements, the country is still in a deep economic crisis. I have a job that we somehow make ends meet, but I'm looking for work all over the world, from Russia to New Zealand, because even if it becomes completely calm here, it's impossible to work here now, the salary does not allow me to live fine. Everyone asks me - why don't I leave? And where to go? We have nothing left in Sevastopol. There are planes of the Ministry of Emergency Situations (which do not fly now), on which we can fly to Moscow, and then what? I have a family for which I am responsible, I cannot bring them to Moscow and live at the airport. Even if I leave my family here, I first need to find a job there, and it is not so easy for Russia to find it even when I am there, given that I need a job that would allow me to provide for myself and my family. With that, I need to first find a place to live when I get there. I wouldn't write about it here if I had other options, but you know what desperation is? I now know. I'm not asking them to buy me an apartment in Moscow, a car, give me benefits and let me do nothing. I can work a lot, I have a lot of experience, several languages, but even in this case it is hard to find a job in any country. I don't expect to be offered a job here right away, but does anyone have any ideas? Because I don't have any left. Hope dies last, but even hope dies.

PS: I have been hearing planes flying for several days now. Even now, as I write this text. And you know, this sound is soothing.

PPS: I apologize for the errors in the text, if any.

An interesting article on the recent shelling of the Khmeimim airbase and media hysteria:

- In my opinion, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, using the mortar shelling of Khmeimim as an example, demonstrated blatant incompetence, which resulted in the actual beating of the Russian army in the Western and Ukrainian media, about, in principle, an ordinary event for the war. Yes, tragic. people died, but ordinary.

To drag a mortar and make a series of shots is not difficult. It could be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. And this should be properly explained to society.

To defeat a huge group of militants who resisted armored vehicles and aviation and, sorry, miss the information agenda to three barmaley with a mortar - this must have an outstanding talent.

The army in Khmeimim is on duty, despite the New Year holidays. Why the press service in the Ministry of Defense allows itself to relax (or swell?) for the New Year holidays - I do not know.

I think that those who did this should be sent to Syria to escort caravans with humanitarian aid - to clear their brains. Let them from there, write reports. In a helmet and body armor. They are useful.

All of the above closely echoes recent material on the work of US aviation in Vietnam, namely, attacks on airfields and defense: https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3037926.html

- According to American official data, only the US armed forces (excluding the armed forces of South Vietnam) from 1962 to 1973 lost in Vietnam on the ground only from mortar, artillery and rocket attacks (excluding sabotage) 393 aircraft and helicopters and another 1185 were damaged. The armed forces of South Vietnam, according to one source, from 1964 to 1973 lost 25 aircraft and helicopters on the ground destroyed and 305 damaged. These losses were incurred despite all the measures taken to protect the air bases, and, without such measures, the loss figure could have been many times higher. It is indicative that the greatest damage occurred in 1968, when about 500 American aircraft and helicopters were lost or damaged on the ground, despite the massive use of caponiers by that time and the dispersal of equipment at air bases.

Simply put, the situation with the attack on the air base is quite ordinary from the point of view of military operations and will be repeated more than once. Another thing is who will be held responsible for the mediocre work of the press service of the Ministry of Defense, which resulted in fanning hysteria literally out of the blue, disinformation, and discrediting the Russian Aerospace Forces.